Notary Knowledge by Derrick Spruill
"Notary Knowledge by Derrick Spruill," created by Derrick Spruill and hosted by Eddie Montes Travis and Marylyn Lee Trotter, is the definitive podcast resource for navigating the multifaceted world of notarization. This show transcends the typical notary discussion, offering a comprehensive look at the industry from both sides of the signing table.
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Notary Knowledge by Derrick Spruill
The Bail Bondsman Route - Money Making Monday
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Are you looking for a new way to grow your business? In this episode, Eddie Montes Travis and Marylyn Lee Trotter talk about the lucrative path of working with bail bondsmen. Discover how being available at all hours can turn your service into a steady stream of income. • Network Building: Learn how to approach local agencies and build lasting professional relationships that lead to recurring work. • Availability: Understand why being on-call for late-night or early-morning signings is the key to winning in this specific niche. • Fee Structures: Find out how to price your services fairly while accounting for the urgency and travel involved in bail bond situations. • Legal Requirements: Get a clear view of the specific documents you will encounter when working alongside bondsmen. Navigating the bail bondsman route offers a unique chance to expand your reach and boost your earnings. Make sure to follow these tips to stay ahead of the competition. Please subscribe and like the podcast to stay updated on more ways to grow your career!
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• How to partner with local bail bonds agencies
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• Understanding essential paperwork for jail signings
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SPEAKER_01Welcome to Notary Knowledge. We are Eddie in Maryland. And uh, you know, when we talk about legal support services or like specifically the environment of a typical business contract, there's always this um this massive underlying expectation of comfort.
SPEAKER_00Oh, absolutely. Like you think of the whole corporate boardroom aesthetic, right? You're sitting across this heavy mahogany table, somebody's poured you artisanal coffee.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the lighting is nice and warm.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. The signatures just sort of happen. It's super civilized, highly controlled, and predictably scheduled right during standard business hours.
SPEAKER_01Right. The environment does so much of the heavy lifting for you. Everyone is relaxed, the paperwork is clean, and um the stakes just feel manageable. But today, we are completely shattering that mahogany table.
SPEAKER_00Oh, we're smashing it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. We are stepping into the really intense world of emergency legal support. Specifically, we're talking about being inside a maximum security correctional facility at like two in the morning.
SPEAKER_00It is a completely different universe.
SPEAKER_01It really is. Suddenly you're separated from your client by two inches of bulletproof glass. You've got these harsh fluorescent lights buzzing overhead, and you're navigating this uh transaction landscape that is just incredibly intent and inherently hostile to standard business practices.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell It's basically the absolute definition of a high velocity, high-stakes operation. I mean, the environment is entirely out of your control. It's dictated by armed guards and rigid institutional protocols. Right. But at the same time, the demand for absolute legal precision in your paperwork is uh it's higher than ever. Like a single misplaced stamp or failing to properly verify identity, that can collapse a financial guarantee worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell Which is wild. And that is exactly the reality we are exploring today. We are talking directly to you, the savvy strategist tuning in. You know exactly who you are. We are framing today's focus under the banner of Moneymaking Monday.
SPEAKER_00Yes, my favorite day.
SPEAKER_01Always. We have a very specific, highly lucrative mission today. We are talking about dominating the legal support services niche by focusing entirely on the Bale Bondsman route.
SPEAKER_00Right, and capitalizing on those 204-7 emergency dispatch routes.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. And to do this, we are pulling from a massive stack of research today. We've got Derek Sprohl's extensive operational guide, some really intricate state-by-state notarial statutes, and uh actual real-world case studies from professionals operating right out there in the trenches.
SPEAKER_00And you know, this represents a massive pivot from what a lot of people in the industry consider standard practice.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because if you recall our prior episodes, we've discussed general mobile notary work. We covered things like real estate closings, estate planning documents and comfortable living rooms, standard hospital visits, stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00The standard playbook. Right.
SPEAKER_01But today we are taking a really high-level, highly experienced perspective. This isn't just about stamping a piece of paper anymore. It's about operating as a critical infrastructure partner in an environment where honestly speed is literally money.
SPEAKER_00It really is. Because the criminal justice system, I mean, it operates 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
SPEAKER_01Never stops.
SPEAKER_00Never. So when we talk about the commercial bail bond industry, we are talking about a massive financial ecosystem built entirely around that relentless clock. The profitability of a bail bond agency is fundamentally determined by one main metric. Which is the speed with which a defendant can be released from custody.
SPEAKER_01Right. So let's um let's break down the actual mechanics of this B2B ecosystem. Because I feel like if we don't understand the financial architecture of bail, we can't really understand why the notary commands such a premium in this specific space. How does the money actually flow?
SPEAKER_00Okay. So to understand the notary's value here, you have to understand the bondsman's immense financial risk. Oh. When a court sets bail, and let's just use a standard figure, say $50,000, the court is essentially demanding a financial guarantee that the defendant is actually going to return for all their future hearings.
SPEAKER_01Right. And most defendants do not just have $50,000 in cash sitting in a bank account ready to go.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. So they turn to a commercial bail bond agency. The defendant's family or a co-signer who is legally known as the indemnitor pays a non-refundable premium to the licensed bail bondsman.
SPEAKER_01And what's the going rate for that?
SPEAKER_00Well, state regulations usually mandate this premium to be between ten and fifteen percent of the total bail amount. So in our scenario with the fifty grand, the family pays five thousand dollars. Got it. And in return for that five thousand dollar fee, the bondsman posts a surety bond with the court, which provides a legal financial guarantee for the full fifty thousand dollars. Wow.
SPEAKER_01So the bondsman is instantly on the hook for fifty grand if this person decides to, you know, skip town, cross state lines, and miss their court date. Yep. That is a staggering amount of liability to take on for just a $5,000 fee. I mean the margin for error there is basically nonexistent.
SPEAKER_00It really is. And that massive liability is exactly why the paperwork is entirely non-negotiable. Like before the bond is ever formally posted at the courthouse, the bail agency has to mitigate that financial risk by executing ironclad legally binding contracts. Right. We are talking about the primary bail bond application, indemnitor agreements from the cosigners, and crucially, collateral paperwork.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I want to pause on that collateral paperwork for a second because that is really where the notary becomes the linchpin. We aren't just talking about a simple signature acknowledging a debt here, are we?
SPEAKER_00No, not at all. We are talking about securing real assets. To cover that $50,000 risk, the bondsman might require a deed of trust on the family home or maybe a transfer of a vehicle title.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. These are highly regulated real estate and financial documents that require proper, flawless notarization to be legally recorded and enforced.
SPEAKER_01So if there's a mistake.
SPEAKER_00If the defendant skips bail and the bondsman tries to foreclose on that house to recoup their $50,000, the very first thing the family's lawyer will do is attack the validity of the notarized deed of trust.
SPEAKER_01Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00And if the notary made a mistake, the collateral is completely useless and the bondsman loses everything. Jeez.
SPEAKER_01Which brings the speed factor into crystal clear focus, right? Speed becomes the ultimate currency. If a bondsman gets a call at midnight from a panicked family member who just scraped together that $5,000, they need to lock in that contract and secure that collateral immediately.
SPEAKER_00Right. Because if the bondsman delays posting that bond because they're, I don't know, waiting around for a mobile notary to wake up and be available at 9 a.m. the next morning.
SPEAKER_01Somebody else gets it.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Another bondsman down the street with a 247 notary partner is going to swoop in, execute the paperwork at 2 a.m. and take that $5,000 premium. In the commercial bail industry, the first agency to get the paperwork signed and notarized just wins the client. Second place gets nothing.
SPEAKER_01That's brutal. But um I have to push back on this business model, just a bit kind of playing devil's advocate for our listeners right now.
SPEAKER_00Sure, go for it.
SPEAKER_01As a mobile professional looking to maximize revenue, isn't it just easier to market to the family members directly? I mean, they're the ones desperate to get their loved one out of jail. Yeah. Why are we chasing these corporate accounts and dealing with bail bondsmen who are, you know, notoriously demanding fast-paced and highly critical of errors?
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell It's a fair question. And the instinct to go directly to the consumer makes sense on a surface level, but uh it really fails to account for the customer acquisition cost and the nature of recurring revenue.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell Got unpack that a bit.
SPEAKER_00Well, marketing to a desperate family is a B2C business to consumer transaction. It's a one-off. You might spend significant money on local search engine optimization or targeted ads to get that single phone call. Right. You do the job, you get paid your fee, and realistically, you will never see that family again. You start at zero every single morning.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're constantly hunting for the next meal. That's exhausting.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Whereas a moderately busy bail bond agency is processing dozens, sometimes hundreds, of high-value transactions every single month. Yeah. So by securing a BDB business-to-business contract with the agency, you aren't fighting for individual leads anymore. You are tapping into an established high-volume recurring revenue stream.
SPEAKER_01That makes total sense.
SPEAKER_00The bondsman does the marketing, the bondsman fields the frantic midnight calls, the bondsman secures the client. Your only job is to just be the logistical executioner of the paperwork.
SPEAKER_01Right. So think of the mobile notary in this specific niche as like an exclusive pit crew in an ASCAR race. The bondsman is the driver. They are out there navigating the chaotic track of the criminal justice system, dealing with the courts, securing the clients, driving the revenue.
SPEAKER_00I love that analogy.
SPEAKER_01Right. But they cannot stay on the track if the car breaks down. You, the notary, are the critical infrastructure waiting in the pit lane. You swoop in, execute the vital mechanical work, which is the flawless legally binding notarizations in a hostile jail environment, and you get that driver back on the track before the competition even knows what happened.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And the pit crew doesn't market to the fans in the stands, right? They contract with the racing team. And to become that exclusive pit crew, you don't just walk into a bail bond office and hand the receptionist a generic business card. Oh, definitely not. You secure these corporate contracts by offering a highly professional pitch book and a strict service level agreement, commonly known as an SLA.
SPEAKER_01Let's unpack the mechanics of that pitch. If I am a savvy strategist walking into a major bail bond agency, what physical assets am I actually bringing to the table to prove I can handle this ecosystem?
SPEAKER_00Okay, so your pitchbook is a comprehensive, bound portfolio. It clearly outlines your state commission credentials, your specialized background check clearances, your high limit insurance coverage. All the heavy hitters. Exactly. And a detailed map of the specific county, state, and federal facilities you are already authorized to enter. But the crown jewel of that pitch book, the document that actually closes the deal, is the service level agreement.
SPEAKER_01Because you are basically handing them a contractual promise regarding your operational speed, right?
SPEAKER_00You are guaranteeing a specific response time. For instance, you stipulate a 60 to 90 minute dispatch guarantee from the moment they call your dedicated line. You are legally committing to being on route to the jail within that time frame, 247.
SPEAKER_01You're systematically removing all their operational anxiety. I mean, they know if they land a client at 37 a.m., they have the infrastructure to actually close the deal.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And you combine that dispatch guarantee with real-time status milestones. You outline in the SLA that you will text the bondsman at specific trigger points.
SPEAKER_01Like what kind of points?
SPEAKER_00Things like dispatched, arrived at facility, cleared internal security, signer identity verified, documents successfully executed, and in transit back to agency.
SPEAKER_01That is total operational transparency. The bondsman can just focus entirely on writing the next bong or managing the collateral rather than pacing the floor wondering if the paperwork is stuck in some bureaucratic jail limbo. You basically elevate yourself from just being a vendor to being a real strategic partner. And you know what solves that operational anxiety for the bondsman and keeps you moving super fast? Flawless record keeping. That's why we always point our savvy strategist to the One Ledger Notary Journal on the Apple App Store. When you are tracking those SLA milestones and you need to log complex ID information in a high stress environment, you just cannot be fumbling with outdated paper systems. The One Ledger Notary E journal was crafted specifically for professionals by the Magnificent Works team. It streamlines your entries, keeps you fully compliant with state laws, and really speeds up your workflow when every minute literally equals money. We secured an exclusive deal for our listeners. Use the promo code NOTARINKO50 to get 50% off the first year of your annual plan. Protect your business, speed up your process, and download it today.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that app is a lifesaver. But you know, having the right tools and the right contract is really just the preliminary phase. Getting the B2B contract with the bail bondsman is honestly the easy part. Oh yeah. The true operational challenge is transitioning from that handshake in the agency office to actually physically penetrating the secure perimeter of a correctional facility.
SPEAKER_01Right, because the reality of the legal support services niche hits very hard right here. You do not just walk up to the front desk of a county jail at one in the morning, tap on the glass, and say, Hi, I'm a notary. I'm here to see an inmate.
SPEAKER_00Oh, they would laugh you right out of the lobby.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_00The entry protocol requires immense proactive preparation. Long before a bondsman ever even calls you, you must systematically get yourself placed on the officially recognized approved notary list at every local sheriff's office, county detention center, and federal prison in your target radius.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I imagine this isn't just a simple online web form you fill out in five minutes.
SPEAKER_00They're not even close. It is a grueling bureaucratic process. It typically involves submitting your active commission, passing comprehensive fingerprint-based background checks directly through the county or federal systems.
SPEAKER_01Which are way more rigorous than standard employment checks, I assume.
SPEAKER_00Oh, significantly more rigorous. And then you have to be formally vetted by facility administrators. You are asking for privileged access to a highly secure population.
SPEAKER_01Right. It's heavily dependent on relationship building. You have to cultivate real professional respect with the desk sergeants, the shift lieutenants, and the facility coordinators. They are the ultimate gatekeepers.
SPEAKER_00They absolutely are.
SPEAKER_01If they know you, if they respect your professionalism, and they see that you follow their security protocols to the letter, your access becomes significantly smoother. But um, the physical environment itself is still incredibly restrictive. Right.
SPEAKER_00To really illustrate this, let's explore a scenario involving Kevin from Washington.
SPEAKER_01Okay, let's talk about Kevin.
SPEAKER_00So Kevin has done all the legwork, he secured his spot on the approved list. Now he is prepping for his very first late-night jail visit at a maximum security state facility in Washington. As he reads through the facility guidelines, he is deeply concerned about their strict contraband rules and just his own personal safety in general.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Kevin is probably having a moment of realization right now. He's looking at his standard notary go bag and realizing almost everything in it is banned. The list of what you cannot bring inside is staggering.
SPEAKER_00It really requires an entirely minimalist approach. The rules usually dictate that notaries cannot bring briefcases, backpacks, or purses into the secure areas of most facilities.
SPEAKER_01So what can you bring?
SPEAKER_00You are typically allowed your government identification, your physical notary journal, your official state seal, and the specific loose documents required for the execution. That's it. Absolutely everything else must be secured in a facility locker in the lobby or left hidden in your vehicle.
SPEAKER_01Wow, the digital detachment is severe. Like your smartphone, your smartwatch, your digital voice recorder, even your electronic car keys, they do not cross that secure perimeter. Yeah. You're walking in completely disconnected from the outside world.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And let's address a fascinating detail that catches a lot of professionals completely off guard, which Kevin is facing right now. Kevin is prepping his approved supplies, and he naturally assumes he can just bring his favorite heavy metal twist action pen to execute the signatures.
SPEAKER_01Right. It's the really nice professional pen he uses for high-end real estate closings.
SPEAKER_00Right. But inside a high security environment, that standard rigid pen is actually classified as a dangerous weapon.
SPEAKER_01Wow. I guess because a sturdy metal or hard plastic pen could easily be weaponized as a piercing tool in a volatile environment.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_01So if Kevin walks up to the security checkpoint with that pen, he will be turned away and he will look like a total amateur who didn't read the rules.
SPEAKER_00So the operational solution, which we strongly advise Kevin to utilize, is to procure prison pens or jail pens well in advance. Yeah. These are specially manufactured writing instruments specifically designed for correctional environments. They are made with entirely flexible, soft rubber bodies and internal ink cartridges that bend under pressure. They literally cannot be weaponized.
SPEAKER_01They write perfectly fine, but you can like tie them in a knot.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Showing up to the security desk with the compliant, flexible pen proves to the guards that you are a seasoned professional who deeply respects their security environment. It really builds that crucial institutional trust.
SPEAKER_01Right. It is those granular details that totally dictate your reputation with the facility staff.
SPEAKER_00And speaking of the environment, we have to talk about the psychological atmosphere once you are actually inside the professional visiting room.
SPEAKER_01It's heavy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You are sitting across a small table from someone who has just been arrested. The atmosphere is thick with anxiety, fear, and honestly, often anger.
SPEAKER_01The psychological boundary you must maintain there is paramount. You are going to encounter individuals accused of a wide spectrum of offenses. I mean, from minor traffic violations to severe violent felonies. Right. But your personal feelings, your moral compass regarding their situation, or your assumptions about their guilt or innocence, all of that is entirely irrelevant to your professional notarial duty. You really have to cultivate an aura of respectful objectivity. You are a representative of the state, there to perform a very specific legal function. You are not there to judge them. But more importantly, and I feel like this is a trap many empathetic notaries fall into, you are not there to provide legal advice on their criminal matters.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that is perhaps the most dangerous liability trap in this entire niche. An incarcerated signer is often desperate and disoriented, right? They are being handed a stack of complex legal documents by a stranger. They will inevitably ask you, Should I sign this? What does this indemnitor clause mean for my pending case? Is this going to keep me in jail longer?
SPEAKER_01And the urge to help them understand is so strong, especially if the document is related to a criminal matter, like a criminal affidavit or a plea-related document.
SPEAKER_00It is. But if you attempt to interpret the legal ramifications of the document for them, you are committing the unauthorized practice of law.
SPEAKER_01Huge red flag.
SPEAKER_00Huge. In fact, many facilities recognize this risk and require a formal letter of approval from the inmate's attorney of record before they even allow you inside to notarize case-related documents. But honestly, regardless of whether it's a criminal affidavit or a simple vehicle title transfer for bail collateral, your job is strictly confined to identity verification and witnessing the voluntary signature.
SPEAKER_01So what is the exact protocol if the inmate looks at the document, clearly doesn't understand what they are signing, or maybe they appear heavily sedated from a medical intake procedure, or they're exhibiting signs of extreme duress from the arrest?
SPEAKER_00Well, the core foundation of notarial law across all 50 states mandates that the signer must be competent, willing, and fundamentally aware of what they are signing. If they lack that awareness or willingness, the notarization absolutely cannot legally proceed. You must halt the process immediately.
SPEAKER_01Even if the bail bondsman is like screaming at you on the phone that they need the document signed right now to secure the $50,000 premium.
SPEAKER_00Especially then. You must inform the coordinating party, whether that's the bondsman or the family, that the legal threshold for notarization was not met. And then you have to comprehensively document the refusal and a specific behavioral reasons for it right in your journal.
SPEAKER_01Man, it requires a spine a steal.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You have to be able to look a desperate situation in the eye, ignore the financial pressure from your B2B client, and hold the line on state law.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01That level of operational integrity is exactly why this niche pays a massive premium. That psychological boundary is tough to maintain. And, you know, it's a core reason we pulled so much of today's source material from the notary knowledge books by Derek Skrull.
SPEAKER_00They are fantastic resources.
SPEAKER_01For those of you looking to truly elevate your business, master these complex scenarios, and really build that required spine of steel, you need to engage with this material. These books are packed with the exact kind of high-level strategy and legal fortitude we are discussing today. If you visit the Notary Knowledge website, you will find an absolute gold mine of resources, legislative updates, and community support tailored for professionals who want to dominate their local markets. Don't just guess your way through this high-risk industry. Invest in the expertise that has already paved the way.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. So assuming you have successfully navigated the security protocols, you have your flexible rubber pen in hand, you have maintained your psychological objectivity, and you are sitting across from a willing and competent signer.
SPEAKER_01So it sounds like everything is going perfectly.
SPEAKER_00Oh, just wait. You are now about to run headfirst into the single most complex, legally frustrating labyrinth in the entire correctional facility notarization process.
SPEAKER_01Ah, yes, the identification labyrinth. Because if we zoom out and look at the core problem of this environment, it hits you instantly. When individuals are arrested and processed during the booking phase, they systematically surrender all their personal property.
SPEAKER_00Everything.
SPEAKER_01The intake officers take their keys, their smartphone, their shoelaces, their wallet, and crucially, they take their normal state issued forms of ID like their driver's license or their state identification card.
SPEAKER_00Right. Those IDs are Logged and locked away in a property or evidence vault deep inside the facility. Which presents a massive legal paradox for the notary. Oh, so well, the state legislature mandates that you must positively identify the signer using an unexpired government-issued photo ID. But the state, acting through the sheriff's department, has also locked that exact required ID away in a vault.
SPEAKER_01And if you think you can just ask a busy corrections officer to leave their post, walk down to the property room, dig through the evidence bags, and fetch the ID for a civilian notary appointment, you are going to be laughed right out of the facility.
SPEAKER_00They will not do it. Never. So the primary mechanism for identification is just completely removed from the equation. How do you solve this legally?
SPEAKER_01Let's dramatize this with a scenario to explore the actual mechanics of the law. Think about Jessica from Florida.
SPEAKER_00Okay, Jessica.
SPEAKER_01Jessica gets a 1.00 AM dispatch call from a major bondsman. She races to a county facility in Florida with a highly time-sensitive indemnator agreement. She clears security, sits down on the harsh light of the visiting room with the inmate, and predictably, the inmate has absolutely no traditional ID on them.
SPEAKER_00Of course.
SPEAKER_01What are Jessica's actual legal options under Florida state law to proceed with this high value transaction?
SPEAKER_00Okay, so Florida provides a few very specific, highly nuanced statutory workarounds for this exact paradox, and Jessica needs to know them by heart to save this contract. First, under Florida law, she can legally accept an inmate identification card issued by the Florida Department of Corrections.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that seems straightforward.
SPEAKER_00But wait, there is a historical caveat. It is only valid if the ID was issued after January 1st, 1991.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow, that's a highly specific piece of legislative trivia. I could easily see that tripping someone up if they're dealing with like a long-term inmate on a different type of document.
SPEAKER_00It absolutely is. Alternatively, if Jessica were operating inside a federal facility within Florida, she is legally authorized to accept an identification card issued by the United States Department of Justice or the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
SPEAKER_01But Jessica's at a local county jail in our scenario.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01The inmate is probably just wearing a local sheriff's paper wristband with a barcode, or maybe a really poorly printed local jail ID badge. If that local badge doesn't meet the strict state requirements for an official ID card, maybe it lacks a physical description or a proper signature, she is stuck.
SPEAKER_00Right. And that is exactly where Florida offers a unique third option that is an absolute lifesaver in the bail bond industry. Florida statutes allow notaries to accept a sworn written statement from a law enforcement officer as concrete proof of identity.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's huge.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. The officer is legally testifying that the inmate named in the document is indeed the person whose signature is to be notarized.
SPEAKER_01So Jessica could basically approach the pod deputy, have the deputy swear a formal oath, and sign a statement verifying the inmate's identity.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01That is a powerful tool.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01Assuming the deputy is actually willing to pause their duties to cooperate. But um, this is where the legal support services niche gets incredibly treacherous for our savvy strategists who manage multi-state agencies or live right on state borders. Oh. These ID variances change drastically the moment you cross an invisible geographic line.
SPEAKER_00It is a chaotic patchwork of state-by-state legislation, honestly. The rules that literally save your business in one state will get your commission revoked in another.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, let's contrast Jessica's Florida options with a few other jurisdictions.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because I'm looking at these state statutes and I'm genuinely confused by the complete lack of standardization. If I am operating a massive bail network, how do I prevent my team from accidentally committing a severe notarial violation just because they drove across state lines?
SPEAKER_00You really have to build state-specific compliance matrices right into your training. Take Arizona, for example.
SPEAKER_01Okay, what's Arizona like?
SPEAKER_00In Arizona, the law is relatively broad and accommodating. A notary there can accept an inmate ID from the Arizona Department of Corrections, a Federal Bureau of Prisons ID, or any form of inmate ID issued by a county sheriff, provided the signer is actively in the sheriff's custody. It offers a lot of flexibility.
SPEAKER_01Nice. But then you look at California, and the legislature takes a completely different, much more restrictive approach, right?
SPEAKER_00California is highly specific. You can use an identification card issued by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation for state prison inmates, or a sheriff issued ID for local county detention facilities. Okay. But California law explicitly and forcefully prohibits using a federal inmate ID or a non-sheriff immigration ID for notarization purposes.
SPEAKER_01Wow. So if you are a notary in California who previously worked in Florida and you try to use a federal BOP card to identify an inmate, you are breaking state law and jeopardizing the entire legal transaction.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And then in Texas, the legislature adds yet another layer of bureaucratic complexity regarding your record keeping.
SPEAKER_01Of course they do.
SPEAKER_00Texas allows a Texas Department of Criminal Justice issued inmate ID or a county sheriff custody ID. But Texas statutes absolutely forbid the notary from recording the identifying card numbers in their public record book. Wait, really? Yeah, you can note the type of ID used, say a TDCJ card, but recording the actual serial number is a direct violation of state privacy protocols.
SPEAKER_01So the state laws are wildly inconsistent. But what happens when the facility issued ID completely fails the legal standard of your state? Let's say it's literally just a barcode on a paper band with no photo.
SPEAKER_00Then the ID route is dead.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You have to pivot to the credible witness workaround. And this is where the operational friction reaches a boiling point.
SPEAKER_00The credible witness protocol is a fundamental pillar of notarial law. It basically allows a third party to swear a binding legal oath confirming the identity of the signer. Right. However, trying to actually execute this protocol inside a locked jail setting is logistically grueling.
SPEAKER_01The first logical thought is I'm surrounded by guards who interact with this inmate every single day. I'll just ask the nearest corrections officer to act as the credible witness. I mean, they have the official roster. They know exactly who the person is.
SPEAKER_00It sounds like the perfect solution, but it is often practically impossible. Why is that most correctional facilities have strict internal union policies and administrative directives explicitly prohibiting their staff, guards, or counselors from acting as witnesses for inmate legal transactions or participating in civilian legal processes.
SPEAKER_01Why are they so resistant to it?
SPEAKER_00Liability and logistics. If a guard acts as a credible witness for a commercial bail bond document, and that bond later becomes the subject of a massive fraud lawsuit, that guard can be subpoenaed to testify in civil court. Oh, yeah. The county does not want its officers pulled off the floor to testify in a civilian dispute over collateral, so their policy is just of a blanket refusal.
SPEAKER_01Which means the burden falls entirely back on the notary. You have to coordinate a second, fully cleared civilian individual to enter the facility with you, solely to act as a witness. Getting one professional notary cleared through security at 2.0 AM is a massive hurdle. Trying to get a second random person cleared is a logistical mountain that most jails simply won't accommodate.
SPEAKER_00Usually not.
SPEAKER_01And even if you manage a miracle and get them inside, the state quirks regarding credible witnesses can still completely derail the signing.
SPEAKER_00Right. We really must highlight these state-specific quirks because they fundamentally dictate your operational capacity. In states like Texas, Illinois, and Pennsylvania, the legislature has decided that the credible witness must be personally known to the notary public.
SPEAKER_01That is wild to me. If I am a notary operating in Texas and I get dispatched to a county jail at midnight, I have to bring someone I personally know who also happens to personally know the incarcerated defendant to act as a witness. How does that even exist in reality?
SPEAKER_00In practical application, it means that if the inmate lacks proper ID in a state with the personally known requirement, the notarization is almost always dead in the water.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's no way.
SPEAKER_00The only viable path is if an attorney that you happen to know personally is involved in the case and can act as the witness, assuming they know the client, it really acts as a massive barrier to emergency legal support.
SPEAKER_01Contrast that highly restrictive environment with a state like Montana.
SPEAKER_00Oh, Montana takes a vastly more pragmatic approach to the credible witness dilemma. In Montana, the credible witness does not need to be personally known to the notary. The credible witness simply needs to present their own valid government-issued photo ID to the notary and then swear the oath positively identifying the inmate.
SPEAKER_01So under Montana law, the defendant's family member or the co-signer who is sitting right there in the jail lobby could legally act as the credible witness.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_01The only hurdle is getting the jail administrators to allow that family member into the professional visiting room alongside you, which brings us right back to navigating facility security policy.
SPEAKER_00The intersection of state notorial law and individual facility security policy creates this constantly shifting maze. You really must master both to survive in this niche.
SPEAKER_01Okay, let's assume you are a master of the maze. You have navigated the ID labyrinth, you either have the proper state-approved identification, or you have executed the credible witness workaround flawlessly.
SPEAKER_00You're doing great.
SPEAKER_01You are finally ready for the physical notarization process. But the environment itself physically fights against your ability to execute the paperwork.
SPEAKER_00Yes. We are transitioning from the legal hurdles to the severe physical reality of executing documents behind the glass. In many maximum security prisons, federal hold facilities, or high-risk administrative segregation areas, you are never allowed in the same physical room as the signer.
SPEAKER_01You are escorted into a secure booth and you are separated from the inmate by a thick floor-to-ceiling glass partition. You literally cannot even hand them the flexible rubber pen you brought.
SPEAKER_00The physical barrier fundamentally alters the transaction. Documents must be awkwardly passed through a narrow heavy metal slider or drawer built right into the wall.
SPEAKER_01What if they don't have a slider?
SPEAKER_00In older or more secure facilities that lack sliders, you literally have to hand your documents to a corrections officer who walks them out of your room through a series of secure doors to hand them to the inmate waiting in a completely separate holding area on the other side of the glass.
SPEAKER_01Let's explore the mechanics of this with our next scenario featuring David from Ohio. David is a savvy strategist who secured a highly lucrative contract with a regional bail bondsman. He gets dispatched to an Ohio maximum security prison for a massive collateral sign.
SPEAKER_00Not by stakes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. He arrives, clears the intent security, and finds himself sitting in a concrete booth staring at his client through a heavy glass partition. What is the exact step-by-step protocol David must follow to execute this flawlessly?
SPEAKER_00Okay, so David's situation requires meticulous patient execution. First, as a civilian professional, he cannot just walk in and demand the inmate be brought down. He must navigate the internal bureaucracy. He writes a physical pass or submits a formal request at the administrative desk to initiate the inmate's release from their specific cell block. He then waits while the internal logistics-like guards organizing the movement, chaining the inmate if necessary, and escorting them through the sprawling facility slowly take place.
SPEAKER_01And while he's sitting in that booth waiting, he is meticulously prepping his documents, double-checking the tags for signatures and initials. When the inmate finally arrives on the other side of the glass, the communication barrier is severe.
SPEAKER_00Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01David has to conduct the entire complex legal transaction through a crackling intercom system, or, if the intercom is broken, by literally shouting through small metal grates in the wall. Like, are you signing this voluntarily? Do you understand this is a deed of trust, placing a lien on your property?
SPEAKER_00And then comes the perilous moment of physical transfer. Let's say David has to pass his official notarial record book, his physical journal, through the metal drawer or via a guard, so the inmate can provide their legally required signature, and in many states their biometric thumbprint.
SPEAKER_01This specific moment is where David could face a massive career-ending liability issue if he isn't intimately aware of federal law, right?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely, because that notary journal is not just a log of names. It contains the names, home addresses, driver's license numbers, signatures, and transaction details of every single other client David has served in recent weeks.
SPEAKER_01If he just slides the open book through the slot, he is exposing all of that data to a maximum security inmate and potentially to the guards or other inmates lingering in the holding area.
SPEAKER_00Exposing that information is known as a breach of non-public personal information or NPPI.
SPEAKER_01I want to dive deep into this concept. Why is a simple notary journal subject to such intense federal scrutiny?
SPEAKER_00Because the nature of the documents being notarized dictates the classification of the data. When you are notarizing bail bond applications, deeds of trust, or financial affidavits, you are facilitating a financial credit transaction.
SPEAKER_01Okay, I see where this is going.
SPEAKER_00Therefore, the data collected in your journal in relation to that transaction falls under massive federal financial privacy regulations, most notably the Graham Leach Bliley Act, known as GLBA. If medical powers of attorney are involved, you are also navigating HIPAA regulations.
SPEAKER_01So the federal government basically views your journal as a repository of protected financial and medical data. If David slides that open book through the glass and exposes the address of a previous client to an inmate, he is committing a direct violation of federal privacy law. He could be facing severe financial penalties, lawsuits from the exposed clients, and the immediate revocation of his notarial commission. How does David legally protect that data while still getting the required signature on the line?
SPEAKER_00The professional standard protocol is the mandatory use of a static cling privacy guard.
SPEAKER_01Explain how that physical tool works in practice.
SPEAKER_00It is an opaque, reusable plastic overlay that clings to the paper without adhesive. Before David ever passes the journal through the slider, he must meticulously arrange this privacy guard flat across all previous entries on the journal page.
SPEAKER_01So it hides everything.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. He masks the names, the addresses, the ID numbers, leaving only the single blank line exposed for the current inmate to sign and thumbprint. He secures this privacy guard, confirms nothing else is visible, and only then does he hand the journal to the guard or slide it through the drawer.
SPEAKER_01It seems like such a microscopic detail. But a simple piece of static cling plastic is literally the shield protecting you from federal privacy violations and devastating lawsuits. It demonstrates to the facility administrators that you deeply respect privacy protocols and it acts as an impenetrable armor for your business.
SPEAKER_00It really does.
SPEAKER_01And for those trying to visualize this static cling setup or how to navigate passing documents through heavy security sliders, this is where visual resources become mandatory. Check out our video podcast, No Notary, with Eddie Montes Travis. It brings a fantastic visual element to these complex logistical topics, allowing you to actually see these strategies in action.
SPEAKER_00Highly recommend watching that.
SPEAKER_01And for those moments when you just need quick, actionable advice between dispatch calls, make sure you tune in to Maryland's 90 seconds of notary. It is high impact, concentrated knowledge distilled into a minute and a half. Both of these shows are essential tools for anyone serious about mastering the physical realities of the legal support services niche.
SPEAKER_00So true. Okay, returning to our exploration of the bail bond route, we must address the single most frustrating and financially dangerous aspect of this business: the logistical nightmare of institutional unpredictability.
SPEAKER_01Yes, we've spent this entire time talking about speed being the ultimate currency. The pitch book and the service level agreement are built entirely around guaranteeing a 90-minute dispatch. You race to the jail to beat the competition. Right. But the brutal reality is the moment you step foot inside that facility, you completely surrender all control of the timeline. The jail dictates everything.
SPEAKER_00It is a profound psychological shift in operational dynamics. In a normal business environment, you control your schedule. If a client is late, you build them or leave. In a correctional facility, you are entirely at the mercy of their sweeping security protocols. Standard headcounts happen multiple times a day, freezing all movement. Inmates are pulled for court transports or medical evaluations without warning. Shift changes completely paralyze the facility for an hour.
SPEAKER_01And that's just the routine delays. If an actual incident occurs, a fight in a housing pod, a medical emergency, a suspected contraband, drop the alarm sound, and the entire facility goes into immediate lockdown.
SPEAKER_00Let's look at Marcus from New Jersey to really understand the devastating financial impact of this unpredictability. Poor Marcus. Right. Marcus is contracted by a bail agency. He gets dispatched to a major facility known for incredibly strict, time-consuming visitor screenings. Let's say the Essex County or Hudson County Correctional Facility. Okay. He drives an hour through traffic, goes through the intense and invasive security screening, successfully requests the inmate be brought down, and then the sirens wail. A lockdown is called. Marcus sits in a bleak cinder block waiting room for three agonizing hours.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's awful.
SPEAKER_00Finally, a guard comes out and tells him all inmate movement is canceled for the day. He never even sees the signer.
SPEAKER_01We need to talk about the economics of waiting here. If I'm doing a standard consumer job, maybe notarizing a will in someone's living room, and the client doesn't show up, I might lose an hour. But Marcus just lost four hours of his day, plus his travel expenses, plus the opportunity cost of missing other dispatch calls.
SPEAKER_00A massive loss.
SPEAKER_01And under standard consumer practices, because he didn't stamp a document, he wouldn't get paid a dime.
SPEAKER_00From a traditional consumer notary perspective, Marcus's scenario is a total financial disaster. A desperate family member is certainly not going to want to pay you a hefty fee if the document didn't get signed and their loved one is still in jail. They will argue you didn't do your job.
SPEAKER_01Which perfectly highlights why marketing directly to consumers is incredibly risky in this niche. You're basically assuming all the financial risk of the state's prison system yourself.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01But this is the beauty, the true power of the B2B model with a corporate bail bond agency.
SPEAKER_00Precisely. Marcus's scenario perfectly illustrates the operational necessity of an execution independent outcome clause or an EIO clause, heavily negotiated right into his B2B contracts.
SPEAKER_01Let's break down the legal and business philosophy behind that clause. What does execution independent outcome actually mean for Marcus's bank account when he is sitting in that cinder block room?
SPEAKER_00It means a fundamental shift in what the client is purchasing. The bail bond agency is not just paying for a rubber stamp on a piece of paper, they are compensating the notary for their immediate operational mobilization, their specialized security clearance, and their dedicated time, regardless of whether the physical facility actually allows the physical signing to occur.
SPEAKER_01So the contract explicitly stipulates that if Marcus arrives on time, clears the security protocols, and is subsequently prevented from completing the signing due to institutional delays, lockdowns, or even the inmate stubbornly refusing to sign the paperwork, Marcus is still paid his agreed-upon logistics and travel fee in full.
SPEAKER_00Because the Bell bondsman, as a sophisticated corporate partner, understands the environment. They know Marcus fulfilled his end of the SLA. He deployed rapidly.
SPEAKER_01Right, he did everything right.
SPEAKER_00The failure to execute was not due to Marcus's negligence. It was an environmental hazard inherent to the criminal justice industry.
SPEAKER_01The bondsman is paying for the capacity, the infrastructure, and the attempt just as much as the final signature.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And honestly, if a bail agency refuses to agree to an execution independent of outcome clause during your initial pitch, they are simply not a viable B2B partner for this high-risk niche. You cannot, under any circumstances, subsidize the institutional inefficiency of the state prison system out of your own pocket, you will go bankrupt.
SPEAKER_01Which leads us perfectly into the financial architecture of this entire operation. How do we structure fees, handle disputes, and ensure ourselves against catastrophic loss? Because you cannot survive in this environment charging standard rates.
SPEAKER_00No, you have to completely discard the traditional consumer pricing model. If you rely on the state-mandated signature fee, which is often capped at five, ten, or fifteen dollars per act, you will drown.
SPEAKER_01Walk us through the math of those tiers. How do we build a profitable invoice?
SPEAKER_00The first tier is the base travel and convenience fee. This covers your baseline mobilization, mileage, vehicle wear and tear, fuel, and the effort of deploying to the facility during normal business hours. This is standard logistics pricing.
SPEAKER_01But the bail industry doesn't operate on standard hours, obviously.
SPEAKER_00Which brings us to the second tier, the after hours premium. Because the bale industry demands 247 responsiveness, you must heavily monetize your availability. A surcharge of $30 to $75 is standard industry practice for midnight, weekend, or federal holiday dispatches.
SPEAKER_01As we established earlier, the bondsman will gladly pay a $75 premium if it guarantees securing a $5,000 bond premium at 3 0 a.m. before a rival agency wakes up.
SPEAKER_00The ROI for the bondsman is massive. Now the third tier is the wait time surcharge, which protects you from the scenario Marcus faced.
SPEAKER_01Right, the endless waiting room.
SPEAKER_00Your SLA contract should stipulate that the base travel fee covers the first 30 or 60 minutes at the facility. After that grace period expires, you bill incrementally, perhaps $25 for every additional 15 minutes you are forced to wait due to facility delays or lockouts. This ensures your time remains steadily profitable. Even if you're just staring at a concrete wall.
SPEAKER_01But designing these fees on paper is one thing. Actually, collecting them in the real world can lead to intense friction, especially if you venture outside the B2B umbrella. Let's bring in our final scenario to illustrate the danger, Elena from Texas.
SPEAKER_00Oh, this is a tough one.
SPEAKER_01Alina decides to take a consumer job, operating outside of a corporate B2B contract. A frantic family hires her directly to meet them at the county jail to notarize an indemnity agreement to get their son out.
SPEAKER_00Classic B2C setup.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Elena drives there, but the jail is on full lockdown due to an incident. She can't access the son. The family, who is highly stressed, angry, and financially stretched, flat out refuses to pay her travel fee because they argue the document wasn't notarized. She is facing a total loss of time and money.
SPEAKER_00To build a bulletproof collection strategy and avoid this confrontation, Elena needs to deeply understand how Texas law and the law in most states actually structures notarial fees.
SPEAKER_01Because in Texas, the state strongly mandates a maximum fee a notary can charge strictly for the notarial act itself.
SPEAKER_00Right. The physical act of verifying the identity, witnessing the signature, and applying the stamp is strictly kept by the government, often around $6 to $10, to prevent predatory price gouging on essential legal services.
SPEAKER_01However, the travel, convenience, and logistics fees are entirely separate from the Notarial Act. They are distinct logistical fees that must be clearly agreed upon by the client beforehand.
SPEAKER_00To prevent the emotionally charged dispute Alina is facing, savvy strategists employ a very specific, uncompromising operational protocol. They collect the non-refundable travel and logistics fee up front.
SPEAKER_01The psychology of this is brilliant. You collect it in the parking lot or via a digital payment link before you ever walk through the facility doors. You establish the boundary immediately.
SPEAKER_00You have to.
SPEAKER_01You look the client in the eye and say, My fee for deploying to this facility, managing the complex security clearance, and dedicating this hour to your case is X dollars payable right now. If we successfully access the signer and complete the paperwork, the state-regulated signature fee of six dollars will be collected afterwards.
SPEAKER_00By collecting the logistical fee up front, Elena completely insulates her business from the unpredictability of the jail environment and the emotional volatility of the client. If the facility goes into lockdown five minutes later, her time, fuel, and expertise are already fully compensated.
SPEAKER_01And the client understood the risk of the environment prior to entry, so the financial dispute is neutralized before it even begins. Now, we need to talk about protecting more than just your hourly rate or your travel fee. We need to talk about protecting your entire business entity, your personal assets, and your livelihood. And this requires making a crucial, fundamental distinction between two financial instruments that confuse almost everyone in this industry. The notary surety bond and errors and omissions insurance.
SPEAKER_00This is perhaps the most vital piece of financial architecture we will discuss today. A misunderstanding here can literally lead to personal bankruptcy. Let's use Texas as our baseline for the mechanics.
SPEAKER_01Okay, laid out.
SPEAKER_00To become a commission notary in Texas, you are legally required by the state to purchase a $10,000 notary surety bond.
SPEAKER_01Right. And a vast majority of notaries look at that official bond document, see the $10,000 figure, and think, great, I am insured for $10,000 if I make a mistake on a document.
SPEAKER_00That is a catastrophic misunderstanding of financial law. A notary surety bond does not protect the notary, it protects the public from the notary.
SPEAKER_01Let's illustrate the mechanics of this because it is so vital. Let's say a notary is being rushed by an aggressive bondsman. They are in a chaotic jail lobby, and they notarize a deed of trust for collateral. But the signer wasn't actually present or the notary failed to properly verify the ID. The signature turns out to be a forgery.
SPEAKER_00A nightmare scenario.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. The defendant skips bail. The bondsman tries to collect on the collateral, realizes the deed of trust is legally invalid due to the notary's negligence, and loses $100,000. The bondsman immediately files a claim against the notary's state-mandated surety bond.
SPEAKER_00In that scenario, the surety company investigates the claim. If they find the notary violated their statutory duties, the surety company will pay the injured party, the bail bondsman, up to the $10,000 limit of the bond.
SPEAKER_01So the bondsman gets a quick $10,000 to cover a fraction of their loss. But what happens to the notary?
SPEAKER_00This is the critical mechanism. The surety company immediately turns around and legally demands that the notary repay them the full $10,000 out of their own personal pocket. A surety bond is essentially a forced line of credit that you must pay back if you cause harm. It offers the notary zero personal financial protection. You are completely exposed.
SPEAKER_01Which is absolutely terrifying when you realize you are dealing with high-stakes collateral bail bond transactions, where a simple administrative error on a property deed could cost a corporate entity hundreds of thousands of dollars. They will come after you. So how does a savvy strategist actually build a fortress around their personal assets?
SPEAKER_00They carry high limit errors and omissions insurance, universally known as ENO. ENO insurance is a completely different financial instrument. It is designed specifically to protect the professional notary.
SPEAKER_01Explain how ENO functions when a claim is filed.
SPEAKER_00If you made an unintentional error, a procedural omission, or face a baseless accusation of negligence while performing your legal duties and a massive lawsuit is filed against you, your EO policy activates. It covers your crippling legal defense costs, attorney fees, and pays out any final settlement or court judgment up to the maximum policy limit.
SPEAKER_01And the beautiful part, the reason you buy it.
SPEAKER_00Unlike a surety bond, losses paid out by an EO policy do not require repayment by the notary. You are transferring the risk to the insurer. You are actually insured.
SPEAKER_01If you are operating heavily in the bail bondsman route, handling massive indemnity agreements and collateral real estate deeds in chaotic, high-pressure jail environments at 2.0 AM, a standard baseline $10,000 ENO policy is nowhere near enough coverage.
SPEAKER_00Not at all.
SPEAKER_01The industry standard for professionals operating at this elite level is carrying at least $100,000 in EO coverage, and many carry significantly more.
SPEAKER_00It gives you immense psychological peace of mind when you are working under pressure. And frankly, it is a massive selling point when you are in that boardroom pitching your SLA to a corporate bail agency.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. When you hand a seasoned bail bondsman your pitch book and they flip to a certificate proving you carry a $100,000 EO policy, it immediately signals that you are a sophisticated, risk-aware professional. You aren't a side hustler. You are treating your practice like a serious, heavily fortified enterprise.
SPEAKER_00It makes all the difference in the world.
SPEAKER_01It really does. Well, we have covered an immense amount of operational ground today. We've dissected the financial mechanics of B2B bail contracts, navigated the psychological tension of the visiting room, explored the paradox of the ID labyrinth.
SPEAKER_00Detailed the physical reality of static cling privacy guards behind bulletproof glass, and structured bulletproof logistics fees and EO insurance.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. We hit it all.
SPEAKER_00It is an undeniably demanding niche, physically and mentally. But for those savvy strategists who mastered the logistics, understand the legal nuances, and build the right corporate relationships, the financial rewards and the absolute consistency of the work are truly unparalleled in the industry.
SPEAKER_01As we wrap up today's extensive exploration, I want to leave you with a final provocative thought to mull over as you build out your five-year business plans. We spent this entire time strategizing how to physically penetrate these heavily fortified fortresses, dealing with guards, glass partitions, and physical lockouts. But as the justice system inevitably modernizes and remote online notarization, or R on, becomes the undeniable, fully integrated legal standard across the entire country. How long will it be before state correctional facilities simply allow secure monitored digital tablets in the cell blocks for remote legal notarization?
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's a fascinating thought.
SPEAKER_01Imagine a world where the grueling physical visits, the invasive background checks, the agonizing lockdowns, the contraband rules, and the glass partitions are completely eliminated by a secure, heavily encrypted video call. Will that technological shift completely destroy this lucrative mobile dispatch niche, rendering the physical visit obsolete? Or will the savvy strategist simply evolve, transforming this physical service into a new, highly specialized form of digital B2B contracting? It is a massive technological wave on the horizon, and it's something you must seriously consider as you project the future of your enterprise.
SPEAKER_00Food for thought.
SPEAKER_01Email your questions to Derek at Dereksbruel.com. We will try to answer as soon as possible at the end of our shows. Exec producer Derek Sprill, lead writer Marilyn Lee Trotter, graphics Eddie Montes Travis, music Thomas Pynum, produced by MagnificentWorks Business Solutions. Don't just be listeners of the knowledge, be doers of the knowledge.
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